Re: windberg art panel

In Reply to: Re: windberg art panel posted by bri on 07/10/00 at 6:39 PM:

: : Has any one heard any news on the windberg art panel and if it's manufacture will be taken over by another company? If not, has any one used the gesso clayboard by ampersand and is it any good? Thanks for any response.

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: I know someone who paints gorgeous things on "CLAYBORD" and i've scrutinized the paint surface intimately. She paints in oil thinned with turpentine using broad and long sweeping strokes and she has had no problems with longevity or customer complaints in ten years of doing this. She scratches through the paint to achieve some texture detail and to emphasize some of her strong linear areas. (scratching through to reveal the ground[white or off-white color]like in kindergarten with crayons). I know she uses a canned oil spray varnish over the finished painting and i have touched (don't tell) the surfaces and they are glassy smooth and durable.

: On the other hand there is my own personal experience (inspired by her seal of approval) with "CLAYBOARD". I spent a little more than i wanted to on a 20 x 30" panel and it's only 1/8" thick support. I struggled trying to get my paint to stay on the panel and not lift or push around previous strokes. It seemed either too absorbant or even a little repellent at times. (that's gotta' sound like no truth at all, i know, but...). I have the feeling that a lubricant would've been in order. (this was prior to my learning how valuable a surface lubricant can be(for painting, too :) ). i'm a believer now. Anyway i have a very powerfully simplistic image on the piece of CLAYBORD and it is currently being subjected to the weather. I saw it three weeks ago and it distresses me a lot less than the day i painted on it. It has successfully survived in an open barn through a Pennsylvania winter, bird and bat feces, the exhaust of a '72 BLUEBIRD bus, and a good deal of humidity lately(it is on the tempered stuff which scoffs at humidity compared to the untempered hardboard). the paint is hard, it seems durable, but i wouldn't feel safe selling it yet and it was an unsure experience for me, which is a shame considering the balls that the image has.

: I thought it was odd that the makers of CLAYBORD, in their little chart in the JERRY'S ARTARAMA catalog, claim that it was a viable support and ground for OIL painting but NOT for EGG TEMPERA.

: In short, i think CLAYBORD can be used effectively. It is not for me.

: I almost bought a WINDBERG panel last winter but decided the cost was too much a factor. I have never used them and don't know of their business plans.

: -bri

bri
I've used the clayboard once and it's awful for my purposes, much too absorbant even with underpainting. And then it's like you state, the brush has no grip. Ampersand claims that their 'gesso' clayboard is excellent for oils. I have a couple arriving in the mail, so, I'll soon find out. But it's probably back to making my own panels.
Thanks for your help -
lcg
Re: windberg art panel Bruce Krucke
 
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