Re: despite insult
In Reply to: Re: despite insult posted by Will on 09/10/00 at 10:07 PM:

:You are very welcome Will, a.k.a. Rob Howard, aka, most other names on this
board. The interesting thing is that your writing style is so similar to Rob Howard's,
and apparent chemistry linguistics knowldedge ,maybe you are his twin. It is this bogus posting that keeps me rolling laughing, not
your ignorance. Then maybe you are familiar with the fact that Maroger medium
contains resin/varnish? if you read Ernst van de Wetering's book you mentioned, you would see that Rembrandt
did not use resin/varnish in a medium. . For a site that will really
keep you rolling on the floor laughing try this, Mr. Sarcastic Rob Howard,

http://japan.park.org/Netherlands/pavilions/culture/rembrandt/

then when you stop laughing buy this book and read what this fellow chemistry/science expert,
someone actually known, says about "the old master secret mediums":

The Artist's Handbook of Materials and Techniques
by Ralph Mayer

Then after that, go to your site "studioproducts.com" and read this on it:

Maroger's Medium

If anything was ever the "secret
medium" of the masters, this is it. Black
Oil mixed with Double Mastic Varnish
produces a chemical reaction resulting
in an amber-colored gel. Once you stop
brushing it, it sets up to hold every detail
in the brushstroke. No matter how thick
you paint the strokes, they won't sag and check what you are selling as
"
Then when people realize that they are being taken for a ride by someone who
knows nothing of old master technique or traditional painting , especially Rembrandt,
maybe they will save a few dollars. I would love to explain how Rembrandt achieves
various effects since I have 1- studied master works in person, 2- Read all of the up-to-date
current info. on Rembrandt, and "old master medium" info.3- spent many many hours
and years of trial and error work. But since I am sure only Rob Howard would turn around
and sell this information to people under his own name, I may as well stay silent here.
How could Rob Howard sell "the secrets of the old masters"
as Maroger Medium, then say he knows about Rembrandt,?? And even suggest a book
that destroys his own argument??.
My only advice if you want the answers to Rembrandt,
Paint paint paint. And learn from what the scientists have to offer.
90 percent of a Rembrandt painting has nothing to do with medium,
so USE BASIC TOOLS. Remember, Rembrandt desired medieval type approaches
to painting, sorry but if I am not vague Rob Howard will probably try to pass on good
information I have as his own puny ideas as he does with other people.
Good luck. In a while I can post up close images when i get a connection-
this isn't my connection, besides, the 6 paintings I'm doing aren't finished, and reflect
the new ideas I have learned. Even if I posted a picture of a painting I did at 17,
it would be better than Rob Howard's photoshop art. If you use photos, use only to sketch
what will be in the painting.

Thank you for not charging me for that information, Mr. Soft. But I was referring less to the visible brushstroke than to the greater illusion of topographical substance that appears in certain passages when viewing the canvas from the side. These are not unusual in Rembrandt's paintings; you can see them in many portraits where the sitter's golden necklace looks as though it should be sporting a 30-pound padlock. Some of the heavy impastos show no visible evidence of brush- or knife-work at all.

: I'm deeply flattered that you would take the effort to
applaud my sparkling sense of humor by refering to
my earlier post as "hilarious." Modesty prevents me from claiming
credit however. Heck, I can't tell a High Performance Liquid Chromatography
from a Fourier Transform Infrared Spectrometry. The credit rightfully belongs
to the comedians at the Dutch chemical and materials group DSM and the Rembrand
t Research Project Foundation. Some of the results of their joint efforts have been
published in Ernst van de Wetering's popular Rembrandt: The Painter at Work.
I highly recommend it. It's a fairly lengthy book and should keep you rolling on
the floor laughing for weeks.


: : The "rembrandtian impasto" is an illusion. Created either by
: : 1- dirt that has sunken into the stroke indents
: : 2- color actually rubbed into it
: : 3- paint that was sticky due to action of the sun on it causing quicker oxidation.
: : Any more info. and im going to charge for it

 
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