223 by david on 10/28/01 at 9:33 PM
Re: compositions

In Reply to: Re: compositions posted by Anwar M. Shaikh on 10/27/01 at 6:34 PM:

: Hi Inje, hey good question it will get people to know each other here! Im Anwar Im a recent college grad (B.F.A). Anywho Im tortured because i am stuck between my love for traditional still life painting and the newer POP grounded collage as a basis for a painting. Its really tearing me apart! Totally delaying my progress but I cant help it. I love Realist Still Life such as perhaps Chardin or more recent ones suuch as Morandi or Luciano. Oh I just melt mentioning the names! Basically it is still life painting from direct observation and the result is illusionistically realist. On the other hand Collage based paintings incorperating contemporary visual experiences such as photographs magizine pictures and consumer products is fresh and potentially optimistic in a uniquely contemporary way .....Oh man Im stuck but thats where Im at. Hey any one else come on join in!! : hi everyone,
rather than HOW you paint, i'm just wondering WHAT you paint. where do you get your composition ideas from. do you use live models/photos/drawings? do you paint figurative (ie, people). i assume most of us here would? are you imaginative/abstracted or more realistic?

just curious....

anwar, good to see that you like to discuss art and look for reactions from others. never had a formal art class, however,have been studying with a grand master for the last 6 years( i do have three degrees one b.s.and two masters only taught me how to research and study). a grand master you ask? the man was andrew mellons personal copyist in 1938. he had his own studio at the antional gallery and at the national portrait gallery. copied renoir' the party boat three times in full size. the first two times in mrs. phillips own studio on the top floor of the mansion. his copies hang at the u.s. embassey in london, mount vernon, monticello, and other locations that you would say i'm lieing about. 32 supreme court justices portraits, 3 portraits of sec. treasury from engravings, and many more all over the world. all the paintings at the truman muesum, at the willard hotel in wash. so when you ask a question and i respond its from his experience not mine that i give you an answer. you stated that katy shouldn't reinvent the wheel, so why are you. composition is fairly straight forward. many of the old masters have worked out composition problems. look at the work you like and compose your own based on theirs. they didn't have the benefit of the mediums we have today but used everything that they did have. why would you hesitate to expeiment with collage and tradional oil painting? tron paper color only for and underpainting see if your theroy holds up. don'y know what school you when to but it seems that your instruction was rather stiff. good realistic art is an abstract that nonbelievers can't see.

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