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In Reply to: Re: Traditional palette vs. modern posted by bern on 05/18/01 at 7:52 PM:

Thanks for the comments and the help on palettes Bern.

: One difference would be transparency. It's difficult to get the same effect using a relatively opaque pigment like Winsor Red compared with a transparent one like a Lake.
Off the top of my head I can’t remember which pigment is used in Winsor Red but there are plenty of lightfast alternatives available to a traditional lake. There are three quinacridone pigments that would be similar in handling characteristics and I think they’re all ASTM 1 - PV19, PR N/A and PR122.

: Also, they tint differently.
True, but Vermillion, even in oils, is not suitable for artistic work IMHO - too many problems with regard to mixes darkening over time. And of course you can modify a tint of a modern red with small touches of another colour like yellow which should allow you to almost exactly match a tint of something like Vermillion.


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Post a Followup 545,548,555"> Ed"> ed1177_yahoo.co.ukRe: Traditional palette vs. modern_05/21/01 at 5:53 PM"> "Re: Traditional palette vs. modern" : Thanks for the comments and the help on palettes Bern. One difference would be transparency. It's difficult to get the same effect using a relatively opaque pigment like Winsor Red compared with a transparent one like a Lake. : Off the top of my head I can’t remember which pigment is used in Winsor Red but there are plenty of lightfast alternatives available to a traditional lake. There are three quinacridone pigments that would be similar in handling characteristics and I think they’re all ASTM 1 - PV19, PR N/A and PR122. Also, they tint differently. : True, but Vermillion, even in oils, is not suitable for artistic work IMHO - too many problems with regard to mixes darkening over time. And of course you can modify a tint of a modern red with small touches of another colour like yellow which should allow you to almost exactly match a tint of something like Vermillion.

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