Re: Fruits and flowers 445 by Patrick on 04/10/01 at 3:38 PM
Re: Fruits and flowers

In Reply to: Fruits and flowers posted by Maureen on 04/07/01 at 10:12 PM:

: I am following Mr. Antonov's video and I am curious about a couple of things that probably have simple answers. In the video it takes about 6 months to complete a painting. If I use fruit or flowers obviously they are not going to last that long and if I change them out they will never be exactly the same shape or positioned in the same place. How is this done?
: Also, I've seen reference to "scumble" and "glazing", what do these terms mean? Perhaps someone knows of a good book to recommend that covers oil painting terms.
: Thank you and much appreciation for answers.

What a good question - I hope someone answers it, because I've wondered that myself!

I do know the answers to your "scumble" and "glazing" questions, though.

Glazing is the technique of putting a thin, transparent coat (glaze) of paint over another dry coat. This is one of the best uses of Oils, because the glazing brings a beautiful glow to the colors. This always causes the painting to darken some, so if you want to use this method, you should start your lower layers lighter than you want them to come out. You generally want to glaze a different color on top, creating a subtle combination of the two colors.

Glazing NEVER uses opaque color - no white! Some of the more opaque colors, such as Cadmium Red and Cobalt Blue, are pretty bad for glazing, too. Alizrin Crimson, Thalo blue and other very transparent colors are fantastic. Just thin them out a lot with turpentine and/or medium, then spread them on. (Remember to let the layer underneath dry completely, preferrably for several weeks, before glazing!)

Scumbling is like glazing, but always with opaque colors. Here, you are using the brush to spread around a thin layer of an opaque color, usually with white in it. Again, as with glazing, you spread this on top of another already dry layer, to get a build-up of colors. You do this with a random, scattered and scrubbed brush stroke, never a smooth, linear stroke.

I have also heard the word "scumbling" used to describe mixed/scrubbed random brush strokes in general, but I've heard the other definition more often, so I just go with that.

As to a good book, I have read lots and lots of books that have covered these terms - I'm sure any good treatise on Oils will explain them in more detail than I have. I seem to have the best luck with books in which the picture examples are something like the style I paint in - seems like a simple idea, but it took me a long time to figure that out!



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I am following Mr. Antonov's video and I am curious about a couple of things that probably have simple answers. In the video it takes about 6 months to complete a painting. If I use fruit or flowers obviously they are not going to last that long and if I change them out they will never be exactly the same shape or positioned in the same place. How is this done? Also, I've seen reference to "scumble" and "glazing", what do these terms mean? Perhaps someone knows of a good book to recommend that covers oil painting terms. Thank you and much appreciation for answers. : What a good question - I hope someone answers it, because I've wondered that myself! : I do know the answers to your "scumble" and "glazing" questions, though. : Glazing is the technique of putting a thin, transparent coat (glaze) of paint over another dry coat. This is one of the best uses of Oils, because the glazing brings a beautiful glow to the colors. This always causes the painting to darken some, so if you want to use this method, you should start your lower layers lighter than you want them to come out. You generally want to glaze a different color on top, creating a subtle combination of the two colors. : Glazing NEVER uses opaque color - no white! Some of the more opaque colors, such as Cadmium Red and Cobalt Blue, are pretty bad for glazing, too. Alizrin Crimson, Thalo blue and other very transparent colors are fantastic. Just thin them out a lot with turpentine and/or medium, then spread them on. (Remember to let the layer underneath dry completely, preferrably for several weeks, before glazing!) : Scumbling is like glazing, but always with opaque colors. Here, you are using the brush to spread around a thin layer of an opaque color, usually with white in it. Again, as with glazing, you spread this on top of another already dry layer, to get a build-up of colors. You do this with a random, scattered and scrubbed brush stroke, never a smooth, linear stroke. : I have also heard the word "scumbling" used to describe mixed/scrubbed random brush strokes in general, but I've heard the other definition more often, so I just go with that. : As to a good book, I have read lots and lots of books that have covered these terms - I'm sure any good treatise on Oils will explain them in more detail than I have. I seem to have the best luck with books in which the picture examples are something like the style I paint in - seems like a simple idea, but it took me a long time to figure that out!

 
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